11.18.2010

Dear BYU ...

I don't know if you have heard of a man of the name Dieter F. Uchtdorf. President Dieter F. Uchtdorf? Does that ring bell?

Well, anyway, he's very well-known in these parts ... and so is this talk he gave at a little meeting called General Conference back in October.

I'll be honest ... I am a little surprised you are not familiar with him or his talk, which clearly you are not, because this showed up on your scoreboard last night after your four point win over Utah State University:

Excellent. I am so pleased that your institution and this attitude reflects the faith I belong to. Way to keep it classy, Brigham Young University. Way.to.keep.it.classy.

Sincerely,

Mindy M. Thornley

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For those of you who really don't know what President Uchtdorf spoke of, here is a snippet:

Perhaps there is no better laboratory to observe the sin of pride than the
world of sports. I have always loved participating in and attending sporting
events. But I confess there are times when the lack of civility in sports is
embarrassing. How is it that normally kind and compassionate human beings can be
so intolerant and filled with hatred toward an opposing team and its fans?

I have watched sports fans vilify and demonize their rivals. They look
for any flaw and magnify it. They justify their hatred with broad
generalizations and apply them to everyone associated with the other team. When
ill fortune afflicts their rival, they rejoice.

P.s. I know that this attitude is not reflective of every BYU student/grad/etc. Some of my dearst friends and some of the most amazing peopleI know have graduated or are attending this institution.

I also know USU fans have had their moments of lack of class. But my alma mater doesn't receive a dime of my tithing nor does it have any affiliation with my faith, so any comments directed to that route are not really not needed. :)

19 comments:

cami said...

AMEN!!!

Zann said...

I second the AMEN!!!

deveney said...

were you at the game?? did you actually take this picture?? if not, these are SO easy to altar on computers..unles you saw it, it could quite possibly not be legit.

Kat said...

BURN BYU, BURN. That's just real rude.

Dan and Laura said...

So sad... If the picture is legit. Poor classless BYU scoreboard.

Jared said...

deveney-

This was indeed on the scoreboard last night at the Marriott Center. Even if it's a few "rotten apples", the fact that it made it through the authority ladder to appear on the jumbotron is beyond disappointing. Even here at USU we don't do that...and THAT'S saying something.

Mindy, this is the best blog post ever. Ever. Forever and ever.

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Robby Spratt said...

Mindy, you know that I think you are awesome an all, but this post kind of bothers me. I'm glad that you, as an official USU super-fan, recognize that USU has had its moments of classlessness in the past. The problem I have is that anyone who participates in USU's embarassing behavior towards rival teams, and then gets upset over BYU's jumbo tron message, comes across as a major hypocrite.
Yes BYU is funded by the church, and as such their behavior is unacceptable, but that doesn't change the fact that similar behavior is equally unacceptable for ANY member of the church regardless of the university you attend.
So while you are reminding BYU students to remember Elder Uchtdorf's recent conference talk, I would suggest that LDS USU students do the same.
The paragraph you quoted from Elder Uchtdorf perfectly summarizes the behavior of USU fans at EVERY game I have ever attended, and frankly, it is disgusting.

Cali said...

We can dish it, but we can't take it? :)

The things the USU people were yelling doesn't make me proud to be an Aggie, I can tell you that. Enjoy your loss is mild compared to to the class coming from USU. I just think it's laughable really- why can't we enjoy a basketball game- without being so awful to other people? Makes no sense to me. People are stupid. It embarrasses me to be from USU....

I guess I just don't think you can really honestly say you're proud of what all the people from USU (in your faith) are representing? The talk in conference was for everyone.. . right? So... I don't think it's a one way road. That's what I think.

But I do love you. So that's something, right?

Charles said...

It's real simple. The reason why this makes us (USU fans) mad is because this wasn't just a student or patron being rude or anything, this was something run by BYU. The jumbotron is associated directly with the university. So, the fact that that message was able to be approved by authorities at BYU and displayed after the BYU win...nah, not cool. It's just the icing on the cake that BYU is an independent, religious school. Whose religion pushes being nice, etc. etc. Just proves my point more as to why most people in the state hate BYU (and makes me laugh when BYU students/alum/patrons wonder why everyone hates them).

All-in-all...go, Aggies!

Alison said...
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Whit said...

mindy, i like reading your blog. and, i like you!

Andrea said...

go to a byu vs sdsu game. trust me it will make you feel real proud to be associated with BYU in any way. . . and i went to SDSU.
i've never been more horrified to be a sdsu student then when i sat at a byu vs sdsu basketball game.

overall i personally think that all people need to remember that it's a sports game. a game.

why sports bring out the worst. . . i will never and i mean never understand.
go aztecs ;)

Burke and Emily Adams said...

Interesting to read the blog and then the ensuing comments. I must admit that I went to one USU basketball game as a Freshmen and never went back, I was so disgusted and embarrassed by our fans. I wonder if we all recognize how degrading the fans and chants ("you you youuuuuuu suck!" - really people? so unnecessary) have become, what can be done to stop it? No longer being at USU, I'm not sure what the fix is, but I know my Dad has been trying to get the counseling center to campaign for better sportsmanship. I'm sure he would love some influential students on board. :) Definitely raised some good questions Mindy.

Marlee Haywood said...

Mindy- i totally agree with you.

yes, USU can be classless in their cheering at basketball games. but when did we ever say that we ARE classy? I am proud to be an Aggie and i have so much fun at sporting events. BYU has great athletics and academics. its the people that think they are high and mighty LDS saints because they go to BYU that piss me off. i know lots of people who go to BYU and they dont act like this at all. BYU is a great school. its just some people who have ruined it for the rest of them.

also keep in mind that at USU sports, the fans are actually saying the cheers and such, we dont put our boastings on the jumbotron. whereas at BYU apparently they are allowed to put things like that on the jumbotron, that's just classless.

Toni said...

Also...

Dear byu,

You can gloat when you can stop being scared little kitties and play us home and home like real men. This bologna of being too afraid to loose in the spectrum every other year is ridiculous. When you want to act like men your gloating will carry a little more clout and not seem like the petty little brother that you are.

DeeAura said...

Just a little tidbit from the press statement Mike referenced...

"This matter has been addressed with the student, who regrets his action."

That's putting it lightly - he was fired.

Not that it should make people feel better, but...one student with access to a jumbotron...I'm pretty sure there are a number of BYU or USU students who would have made a similar "mistake"...

Anyway. It's all a little retarded if you ask me.

Shan said...

It's just sports and I think everyone should be nice to everyone. :)

Kristin said...

I've seen and heard about much harsher things coming form BYU fans- this particular antic doesn't seem like a big deal to me actually. I do feel that BYU represents the Church, and i root for them to do things that help us Mormons come across as good people, etc. But most of the schools in UT really represent the church too since it is UT and people associate our schools with Mormonism, so we should all be careful.

Why do people become so negative when it comes to sports? I also agree that I've been uncomfortable with our Aggie chants such as "You suck," and even the obnoxious endless "airball" thing lasting the rest of the game when that player has the ball. Sheesh!

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